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CF&R — Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:26:50 GMT

Sometimes when I'm drifting a bait back into a slick I'll take the antireverse off and reverse reel to match the current flow (instead of opening the bail ). This allows me to strike faster , but I do get my knuckles busted on occasion. Also, slow reverse reeling is a great way to present a bait to suspended fish directly underneath the boat( instead of dropping to the bottom and then reeling up). The slow presentation of a bait fluttering down can bring some savage strikes, so again you've got to watch out for your knuckles. Just keep a tight grip on the reel's handle.

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Niagara — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 07:04:47 GMT

When they're not jumping Smallmouths make alot of fast"stabs"trying to get to cover or the bottom.The guys that leave the anti reverse off "back reel" to keep up with them.

It's kind of strange to me when I see them doing it. I don't use that method myself ,just don't try it enough to get used to it.I trim and change my line pretty often anyway.

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DOA — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:50:41 GMT

Wow, I just cant imagine attempting that. Seems like it not be a very consistent method of drag, not to mention incredibly risky on the fingers.

It is strange how most fisherman do not even use the option yet it still comes standard with most spinning reels.

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Niagara — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 04:10:54 GMT

Some people use the anti reverse instead of the drag to fight small mouth bass up here on the great lakes.75 or 100 smallies will put alot of twist in the line when they take drag.

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Capt Rick Hiott — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 07:46:36 GMT

Blair,,,,Have you thought about using Pflueger?

It's what I use,,, They work great!

[img]http://www.pflueger-fishing.com/images/2005/medalist_spinning.jpg[/img]

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chumhead — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 14:22:27 GMT

I think it was Van Staal that has a reel with no bail, as you described:

http://www.theflyhatch.com/catalog/prod_detail.asp?SID=PADPCDBFKMOBFHPJ&sec=1&dept=TE

Check the price at the bottom of the screen and you will see why the Van Staal logo looks so much like a "$" sign.....lol...

chumhead

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pag_yaker — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 05:47:27 GMT

[quote][b]Moganman (8/15/2006)[/b][hr]

Here's a big question I would like to know...... How many of you out there actually use the anti reverse on a reel? Does anyone reel backwards on a fish?[/quote]

I've never used that feature ... well, not on purpose anyway. :)

Also, since I use PP and manually close the bail, I don't see the need for a bail at all. Just a GOOD post with some hot dog rollers would work fine for me. Lift itr off the roller to cast, put it back on the roller when I'm done. I think there's already a line of reels out there now that has this, but I can't remember who makes 'em.

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seabass hunter3 — Mon, 04 Sep 2006 23:23:11 GMT

Thanks Matt, I just spent the last few months in a few other countries and did not get a chance to post but I am now back at home (well sort of). Yeah I would love to make it back home for an MM.......:cool:

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KenT — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:24:43 GMT

I don't use the anti-reverse at all. I don't know why you would want to reel backwards on a fish unless it is for those that hold the reels upside down when they reel in? LOL ;)

"Better Out than In I always Say" ....Shrek

As to spinning reels, I really like the Quantum Inshore Catalyst PT-30 for lightweight reel with a simple handle. The Boca's and Cabo's are very nice but a little heavy for me. I also don't like a bulky reel handle but that's me.

I also like the Penn Slammer spinning reels, especially the 260 and 360. I have the Made in USA models and won't part with them "priceless". I wonder how the quality will be on the new imported Slammers since Penn is making them overseas now?

Tight Lines,

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fishndbridge — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:59:47 GMT

WITH Miz DOA, next time, RIGHT? hehe

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DOA — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 06:25:05 GMT

My thoughts exactly. So, when are we going to see the Mogan Man reels come out? <with no anti reverse option!

By the way, nice to see you still around seabass, ya got to make it to the next MM. I will for dang sure be there!

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seabass hunter3 — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:51:47 GMT

OK...I will add my 2 cents here I feel with all the problems that can be associated with the anti-reverse on spinning reels they should be done away with, well at least on saltwater reels. I think some folks here may be getting confused with what some manufacturers have added on the reels like “infinite anti-reverse” keeping the spool from rotating backwards to any degree. I have a quick story about those reverse switches. While fishing a small island in the south pacific I hooked into a very large grouper in 250ft. While I was fighting the fish using a Penn 8500 while trying to keep him from pulling off too much line and palming the spool and I some how hit the reverse switch and well the rest is history as I did not get the fish and I still have a large scar on my finger where the bail ripped the flesh off while going in reverse (very fast) with all the pressure I had on the fish. So for me just eliminate reverse entirely...Forgive me if I've missed something glaringly obvious, but I've never found it anything but a pain in the butt. I do remember when I was much younger and fishing some of the piers around the Ft. Myers area some folks visiting from up north using the reverse switch to reel the baits down to the water (that use to drive me nuts, along with them hold the reel upside down in the process). I try now to buy only reels that have the switch up under the front of the spools vice right on the rear end of it.

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chumhead — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:42:50 GMT

I have heard of people using it to 'reel backwards', but can't understand how that would be any better than a properly set drag? I just leave it in anti-reverse and let the drag do its job. I just don't see a use for a reverse??????????

chumhead

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Vlap — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:55:55 GMT

matt check the post b4 you... river pirate uses it. from what i have heard the reverse switch seems to be used often in a fresh water enviroment. is this right? i have never heard of it being used in salt water...

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DOA — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:58:48 GMT

OK, There seems to be some resounding confusion here.

We are all saying that we do not understand why you would want the reel to reverse. We think reels should be made that do not even make reversing an option.

If anyone knows what is the purpose of being able to reverse the reeling, please post it here.

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riverpirate — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:57:12 GMT

[quote][b]Moganman (8/15/2006)[/b][hr]

Here's a big question I would like to know...... How many of you out there actually use the anti reverse on a reel? Does anyone reel backwards on a fish?[/quote]

Are you asking if we use the reverse or anti reverse? When I use my spinning reels, which is not often, I keep the anti-reverse on so the hook set will be tight and sharp. There are times when I release it allowing me to reel backwards when using light line like drop shoting.

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DOA — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:14:53 GMT

Speaking of messed up, my two Okuma VS's continue to go downhill fast, but they are still plenty fishable. I have sent off the two stradics I used and abused for so many years to get serviced and see if the anti reverses (why are they even on there) can be fixed. Then I will use the ole workhorses while I send the VS's of to be fixed. I honestly think some reel manufacturers think they you are not actually going to use and catch fish all that much on their reels. AF addicts gots to have good gear, because we WILL test it:D

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seatimeflip — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:14:10 GMT

I have never used the reverse reel option on reels...I agree with Matt, it seems to be just a few more parts to get messed up.

Austin

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ParaMarine — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:42:00 GMT

I have'nt seen the new ones in person. Even if I did I would'nt change from the Quantum Cabo line. I hope AF gets a good reel sponsor who ever that may be.

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AF Producer — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 08:13:57 GMT

The new Fin Nor reels are more heavier than the previous versions. They feel like a cross between a Fin Nor and a Van Staal. We weren't impressed at ICAST?

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MICHAELSrnty — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 22:19:17 GMT

Themao,

I have used all brands of reels, and have always come back to Shimanos, I have finally gotten the new 2500 stradic, and love it (thanks again to chum for helping the wife at Christmas time), I even got her one for mothers day. They are a little pricey, but worth the whole $129.00, I don't believe in going any higher than that for a reel, afterall it's just a fishing reel. i've seen huge fish caught on really cheap junk reels with no problem. Expensive reels are just an extravagence, and the women really get into em if they're "pretty" like a piece of jewelry LOL. Use whatever works, and don't worry about keeping up with the jonses, even an ole cane pole and a bobber can be just as productive, fun and relaxing all at the same time.

JMHO

Mike:D

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MoganB3nzo — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:32:35 GMT

i really hope Quantum brings back the Megalite line of reels from Fin-Nor, I have a couple and I still love them. Ive got a couple of Cabos and they are just awesome reels...just heavy. If Quantum can combine the cabo and Megalite, i think they've gotta winner.

BTW, Capt. Blair, got anymore specs on those reels youve been using?

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ParaMarine — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:18:13 GMT

WC Bradley Corp. that owns Quantum bought Fin-Nor and hopefully will bring it back to its old glory. The Quantum Cabo and Boca line are the best most durable, reliable reels I have ever owned. We went 11 for 20 on Tarpon last week in one day with the Cabo 60's and 40's and they did'nt miss a beat. All fish were hooked on the trolling model DOA baitbuster.

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fishndbridge — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 10:22:56 GMT

Gander Mountain, Lake Mary, Fl...Sep 22! LOL That's the premier. They will be available at all Gander Mountains after that.

Trice is going to let us know anywhere else she finds out they will be carried, but she is encouraging us to talk to our local tackle shops about carrying the Capt Blair Wiggins Inshore Slam Series Rods!

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lagoonangler — Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:38:13 GMT

About those rods you are working on W&M. Does anyone know where to buy them. I went to the W&M website and the inshore series aren't there. Any input would be great.

Thanks

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Vlap — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:16:07 GMT

its not the anti reverse people are not liking.. its the switch that allows you to use either anti or free... people dont like the free spooling option... they would rather see the reels just plain anti reverse and not have a lil switch that can break...

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themao — Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:38:45 GMT

This is a foreign concept to me. I thought that the whole purpose of the anti-reverse was to ensure a positive hook-up when one sets the hook on said fish. In addition, it ensures you won't give up too much slack while fighting said fish, and it allows the drag to work for you. I've never heard of people complain about anti-reverses, but bear in mind I'm from St. Louis, MO, and I saltwater fish once or twice a year at most. For the catfishing I do, I use my old Abu Garcia baitcasters. Everything else is with a flyrod or a small spinning reel for bass and panfish.

What do you guys think of Shimano Sustain and Stradics? How about the new Penn Slammers and Affinity reels? Van Staal? Some people mentioned about baitrunners, what do people here think about Shimano's Thunnus?

While we're on the topic of reels, what about baitcasters? It seems that the Calcutta is the standard by which others are measured. I've used a Penn 965 while striper fishing in Arkansas once, and it seemed well built but difficult to cast.

The reason I ask these questions is because I'm considering buying some travel tackle in the near future (Calcutta TE 400, some sort of spinning reel, etc). Thanks.

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fishndbridge — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 23:02:34 GMT

Thanks for the answers guys! I can bring in a Mogan red, but I still have no idea what I'm talking about, most of the time! LOL

DON'T Confuse me with DETAILS! That's what I say! :D :w00t: Interestingly enough, I frequently pay for that attitude! ;)

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Trim-Tab — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:20:39 GMT

I wish I could find a reel with no anti-reverse switch and a baitrunner. I've begged Okuma to release one, but to no avail.

I've NEVER used the anti-reverse on a reel, for ANYTHING. I've always thought it was one more thing to break. I HAVE lost fish due to the anti-reverse switch though. accidentally hit the switch when picking up a rod or while fighting a fish...

my $.02

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DOA — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:13:59 GMT

Yeah I got one retired as well, somethin about gettin your knuckles chewed off in saltwater, when it is less than 30 degrees outside.

Maybe after we get these Mogan Man rods going, we can work on the Mogan Man reels.:D

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chumhead — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:36:19 GMT

Its gotta be a 'freshwater thing'....I watched Bill Dance or somebody talk about reverse reeling while fighting a fish......yeah, I'd like to see him do that with a large snook or redfish, lol.....

the drag works just fine for me, like the MoganMan himself always likes to say.....

"Music......Sweet Music!"

I never use the reverse feature, and agree, it seems to be just another thing to fail. My old Penn 4200SS was one of my favorite reels....but the anti-reverse would fail within weeks of being repaired at the shop, every time (and usually bust a knuckle while fighting a fish). It now sits on a shelf in retirement.

I could easily do without a reverse gear....

chumhead

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MICHAELSrnty — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:17:00 GMT

I believe that the anti-reverse, was designed for freshwater fishing, where you would be using very light line, and also didn't want the noise of the drag, spooking the fish or breaking the line. You would just give him a little line instead. I had some older abu garcia reels when I was a kid and it actually had the words "freshwater" and "saltwater" printed on the reels.

It would be useful if you were going to keep your rod inhand at all times, or finesse fishing with a worm, or where the bite would be so subtle that the fish could nibble the bait off the hook, or even swallow it before you would knew it. You would just be more involved. That's the extent of what I know about it, of coarse I never use it either LOL.

Mike:D

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fishndbridge — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:03:58 GMT

...but I still don't know what it's for! :crying:

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Moganman — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:02:43 GMT

10-4 on that one Vlap!

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Vlap — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:51:41 GMT

doing a lil r&d cpt blair?

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Moganman — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:43:19 GMT

My thoughts exactly Matt!

Seems to me that the anti reverse just makes for another failure point within the reel.

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DOA — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:27:55 GMT

That is a good question. Personally, I wish reverse was an option as in I wish you could by reels that are AWAYS anti reverse. It seems like this would be less parts and therefore better performance.

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nitro — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:22:06 GMT

I use it when I put a hook in the keeper so the line doesn't get slack and let the hook attack me.:P

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FlatsKracker — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:15:05 GMT

The only time I ever use the antireverse is when I want to geta live bait a little more leash..lol, But I have been using the eb30 by okuma for awhile now , that is designed for use with live bait , I still do it with the VS on occasion , but I never really seen the purpose for it either.

No offence to your sponsors Captain, I love their hooks and use them exclusivly, but I`m afraid the old days of eagle claw (KMart ) reels are still embedded in the memory banks , and they would have to prove to me that they are worth buying JMO :)

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fishndbridge — Tue, 15 Aug 2006 06:17:10 GMT

LOL...Frankly, I always wondered if its sole purpose was to help me undo my own screw-ups, when I reeled in too far!

What IS it's intended purpose?