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RE: AMERICA

fishndbridge — Wed, 24 May 2006 09:58:15 GMT

From the other side of the fence.....
>
> I received the following from (Tom O'Malley) who was a Director with
SW
> BELL in Mexico City.
>
> Hello Bill:
>
> You remember I spent five years working in Mexico.
>
> I worked under a tourist Visa for three months and could legally
renew it
> for three more months. After that you were working Illegally. I was
> technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval
>
> During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to
secure
> a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US
passport
> that I had to show each time I entered and left the country.
Barbara's was
> the same except hers did not permit her to work.
>
> To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized
originals
> (not copies) of my:
>
> 1. Birth certificate for Barbara and I.
>
> 2. Marriage certificate.
>
> 3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation.
>
> 4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of
> graduation.
>
> 5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at
> least one year.
>
> 6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indication I had no
arrest
> record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in
good
> standing."
>
> 7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated
why
> there was no Mexican Citizen with my skills and why my skills were
> important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on
Earth"
> letter. It was fun to write.
>
> All of the above were in English that had to be translated into
Spanish
> and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized.
It
> produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left
side and
> Spanish on the right.
>
> Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours
accompanied
> by a Mexican Attorney touring Mexican Government office locations and
> being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times.
> At each location and we remember at least four locations we
instructed on
> Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were
required to
> obey their laws or face the consequences We could not protest any of
the
> Governments actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out
four
> thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When
this was
> done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by
US
> customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we had rented furniture in Mexico
> while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here
that the
> company paid.
>
> We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates
and
> under contract and compliance with Mexican law.
>
> We were required to get a Mexican driver's license.
> This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the Licensing
agency
> to come to our Headquarters location with their photography and
finger
> print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license,
were
> photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly
> after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or
driving
> test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our
only
> instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and
asked.
> We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his
> grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get
it
> back.
>
> We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the
number
> of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did
this
> for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty
legal
> size pages annually
>
> The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after
paying
> more fees.
>
> Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were
> leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants,
> tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to
customs.
>
> It was a real adventure and If any of our Senators or Congressman
went
> through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.
>
> The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to
keep
> its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their
White
> house or government offices but do protest daily in front of the
United
> States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced
fortress
> and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with
> their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect
the
> Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is
a
> large public park across the street where they do their protesting.
> Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in
California or
> Texas.
>
> Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being
hard
> on illegal immigrants.

RE: AMERICA

DOA — Wed, 24 May 2006 08:12:33 GMT

Not to totally take this thread to the whole immigrant situation, but if we went into Mexico demanding there what they demand of us on our soil......... Well, let's just say we would be lucky to be put in jail eating roach infested food.

What killed me was the mexican workers who felt like $10.00 an hour for consrtuction work was not enough money when many Americans dream of making that much an hour!

Unfortunately people, America has and is fast moving towards idiotic decisions. Just look at Affitmative Action: Does not matter how honest, educated, and dedicated you are to your job, you just gotta be what the quota wants. So now you have people who do not want to do their jobs, give us customers crappy service, and they cannot be fired because somone is gonna sue crying out racial and ethinic violations.

Why do you think kids in school do not care much about education anymore? Simple because it is quickly beginning to not matter. I dont care if you are pink and from Jupiter, if you are more qualified for the job then me, then your pink behind should get it!

Racial profiling? Don't get me started. It is not my fault that people of that descent are the ones who blow up buildings! Don't waste time strip searching my grandma when Abdula Hahakmed just walked onto the plain! The funny thing is that Arab people who love America and are getting on planes actually want us to search them, because they don't want to be blown to bits because we let one of their nationality slip by.

Kinda reminds me of how a drunk cried out injustice as he was being arrested for driving utterly under the influence. He said he was unjustly profiled, and maybe so because the cops were pulling over EVERYONE who drove on the sidewalk that night:P C'mon people, you can call it profiling, I call it,"being smart!":w00t:

Phone tapping!!!! Oh my goodness! I am sorry that your privacy was violated in the sake of saving your life! Not to even mention only suspected terrorist phones where being tapped, of course now it has been on national news, therefore the terrorist in America now know not to speak of plans to kill your and my family on the phone because all the major news stations warned them! Thank you media for that:sick:.

And since we are talking about the media......... An Iraqi boy smiling and hugging a soldier will get just as much airtime as I would for eating a hamburger, yet somone dying in the war gets forced in front of our faces all day everyday! HELLO!

Yeah, the war is taking time. It is a different type of war and we have two choices. It can either be fought in the buildings and streets of the middle east, or right here on our soil, in our buildings, and in our streets.... your choice. Secondly, I admit that I believe our military and government behind them has tried to please everybody, and we know how that ALWAYS turns out. I think they need to do what has to be done. I am sure that an arab would much rather be killed on accident by an American soldier trying to save them and their families, rather than be captured, totured, and eventually killed by Saddam.

OK, I feel much better now;)

RE: AMERICA

Niagara — Wed, 24 May 2006 07:17:38 GMT

Amen!!!The door swings both ways if they don't want to speak English and be respectful of the cultures and values that the MAJORITY of the United States practice.

RE: AMERICA

FlatsKracker — Wed, 24 May 2006 06:19:27 GMT

Well all I can tell ya Tom is this.....Next time yer drivin down the street and ya see all them folks lined up at the door of the welfare office sportin, that grill fulla gold teeth, wearing a 60 pound gold necklace and drivin all them escalades,lincoln navagators, blarin the circus misic and rap so loud with there 6000 dollar stereos, that ya think yer hearts gonna jump outta yer throat.....FEEL PROUD THE YOU HELPED THEM BE WHO THEY ARE TODAY!:hehe::hehe::hehe:

RE: AMERICA

Cracker11 — Tue, 23 May 2006 17:49:41 GMT

I`m a Single,White, Male Tax Payer,who claim`s 0 Depemdant`s......Now they take about $4,000.00 out of my Check`s every year,they give me back $900.00:w00t:.........that`s $3,100.00 they make off me busting my Hump.....Every Year........Now I`ve been working steady for about 20yrs.........yeah,that`s $62,000.00

Now let`s see what they do for me:

Military.......Best in the World,but does it realy take 20 Billion Dollar`s to take out a Third World Country.......But because the Men and Women give thier all for us here at home,I`m behind them all the way:cool:

School`s: I don`t have any kid`s:w00t:

Road`s: I guess I should be thankful for I-4.........NOT !

Wellfare: I`m sure I suport MORE than my share......ya can`t tell me there isn`t any SPONGING going on out there when they are living better than me.......and NEVER HAVE TO WORK ..........THANKS,BUT NO THANKS......Oh,I forgot,I have NO CHOICE on this one.

Tax Break and Home Loan: Yeah,Right,you must think I just got to this country:w00t:

You would think that with all the Revenue being generated by this Popular Exedus to this country,from Taxes{Payed By All}and such......That the Honey Pot would be Overflowing,but there is a Hole in The Honey Pot.....the more we put in......the more it Drain`s out the Hole !

So Do You Think I Care If I Offend a Newbee when I wish EACH AND EVERYONE of you a VERY MERRY CHRISTmas this year........In ENGLISH ?;)

RE: AMERICA

DOA — Tue, 23 May 2006 15:05:16 GMT

mmmmmmmmm... could be :Whistling:

RE: AMERICA

nitro — Tue, 23 May 2006 14:06:11 GMT

Amen. This looks like the article by Rush Limbaugh that I sent around several weeks ago.

RE: AMERICA

spotblind — Tue, 23 May 2006 12:56:44 GMT

AMEN.....Let's put CHRIST back in Christmas, Jesus back in the Sping festival better known as EASTER and leave Halloween alone. Get rid of soccer bring back baseball, football and tell your kids to keep score winning and losing are both apart of life.

RE: AMERICA

southernbassin — Tue, 23 May 2006 11:40:39 GMT

AMEN!!!! the truth has been spoken!

RE: AMERICA

fishndbridge — Tue, 23 May 2006 10:55:25 GMT

Um...not to my knowledge? LOL Hiya pag_yaker! Glad you made it over!

RE: AMERICA

pag_yaker — Tue, 23 May 2006 10:52:14 GMT

Was the author an American indian ?

RE: AMERICA

fishndbridge — Tue, 23 May 2006 10:50:00 GMT

I got an interesting one, too. Mind if I post it here?

RE: AMERICA

Vlap — Tue, 23 May 2006 10:49:19 GMT

whatta good buddy:cool:

RE: AMERICA

DOA — Tue, 23 May 2006 10:34:18 GMT

An AF buddy sent this to me;), and I just had to put it here.

RE: AMERICA

fishndbridge — Tue, 23 May 2006 09:43:16 GMT

AMEN!!!

RE: AMERICA

MangroveFisherman — Tue, 23 May 2006 08:26:02 GMT

Ditto....I agree....

RE: AMERICA

FlatsKracker — Tue, 23 May 2006 07:28:16 GMT

Ditto to that Matt ! Amen !!

AMERICA

DOA — Tue, 23 May 2006 05:12:33 GMT

Will we still be the Country of choice and still be America if we continue to make the changes forced on us by the people from other countries that came to live in America because it is the Country of Choice??????

Think about it! All we have to say is, when will they do something about MY RIGHTS?

I celebrate Christmas...........but because it isn't celebrated by everyone..............we can no longer say Merry Christmas. Now it has to be Season's Greetings.

It's not Christmas vacation, it's Winter Break. Isn't it amazing how this winter break ALWAYS occurs over the Christmas holiday?

We've gone so far the other way, bent over backwards to not offend anyone, that I am now being offended. But it seems that no one has a problem with that. This says it all!

This is an editorial written by an
American citizen, published in a
Tampa, FL Newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!

IMMIGRANTS,
NOT AMERICANS,
MUST ADAPT.
I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we
are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11,
we have experienced a surge
in patriotism by the majority
of Americans. However...... the dust from the attacks had
barely settled when the "politically correct! " crowd began complaining about
the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to ! America .
Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants.
However, there
are a few things that those
who have recently come to
our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.
This idea of America being a
multicultural community
has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans......
we have our own culture, our
own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH , not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language.
Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan.. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women.......on Christian principles.............
founded this nation..... and this is clearly documented.
It is certainly appropriate to display it
on the walls of our schools.
If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as
your new home.........because
God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or
you don't like Uncle Sam, then you
should seriously consider a move
to another part of this planet.
We
are happy with our culture and have
no desire to change, and we really
don't care how you did things where
you came from.
This is
OUR COUNTRY,
our land, and our lifestyle.
Our First Amendment gives every citizen the
right to express his opinion and we
will allow you every opportunity to do so!
But once you are done complaining....... whining...... and griping....... about our flag.......
our pledge...... our national motto........or our
way of life....I highly encourage you to
take advantage of one other Great American Freedom.......

THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.

AMEN