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Posted 2/20/2008 2:34 PM
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These fish are bedding up all along the shore outside of my apt. They seem to like the west shore and nowhere else. Can anyone make out the type of fish? Sorry for the poor picture. I only had my cell phone and the fish wasn't going to let me get closer.


Also if you can tell what it is can you also tell me a good fly to drop on it? I tried a small popper and it showed no interest at all.

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Posted 2/21/2008 10:56 AM
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it almost looks like a tailapia i know they can be found in small ponds in florida. I have a small down the road from me that is loaded with talipia that I can catch on just of piece of balled up bread....I don't know what else is could be except mayb an oscar and i don't think you can catch those..

 

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Posted 2/21/2008 3:29 PM
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I agree, looks like a tilapia to me as well.
 
They are considered nuisance exotics in Florida and it is illegal to transfer them from one body of water to another. They are actually cichlids and were introduced into some south Florida waters in the early 70's if I remember right. They are mostly omnivores  and the plan was to use them as a means to control the overgrowth of vegetation and mosquito control. What was overlooked was the tremendous reproduction rate and in no time they were taking over huge bodies of water, killing off other species by eating their eggs.
The positive side  is that they have firm, white flesh that tastes great. I love any fish recipe but I am not a big fan of freshwater species but I do like tilapia.
There are tilapia farms all around the world including Florida because it's easy and cheap to grow.
It is legal to harvest them by hook and line, cast nets and one of the few fish you can harvest with bow and arrow. Unless your intention is to eat them it is illegal to transport them or introduce them into another body of water.
I have a buddy that catches them on dough balls but he also catches them on a fly rod but he usually has to get them in a frenzy by throwing out bread or fish pellets then they will take fly patterns that resemble insects, especially crickets. They are hard fighters.
Geeez, I feel like I just taught class, sorry about that but you asked.


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Posted 2/22/2008 5:06 AM
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I was thinking it was Tilapia but wasn't entirely sure. I keep dropping flies on them with no success. But I have not tried any small insect type flies and I also heard of dropping a sinking fly into their holes. The tilapia will clean it out of their hole and there you can hook them.

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Posted 2/26/2008 9:09 PM
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Yep,

looks like tilapia, a friend of mine had a whole pond full, then an otter got in there and ate em all, he's trying to restock it now. I used to fish them for fun, they would always go out once a day and throw out a few large cups full of dry dogfood, and the water would just boil with them, so I took smaller dry fish food pellets and drilled small holes in them, and slid them over the hook. It only took 1 frenzy to catch a dozen or so, man it was fun. I also found that you can use regular old flake fish food to get em worked up, (it doesn't fill them up as fast) then drop a very small crappie jig (yellow) in and bounce it back to shore. Of coarse like you said, If they're spawning or something you'll have to get them to bite out of aggression or aggrivation, them not you LOL.  

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Posted 2/28/2008 4:55 AM
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Yep. Its a Nile Perch (talapia) Medard Park resavour(?) is full of them , and they wont bite on anything ya throw at them, most people cast net them and sell them to the fishmarkets around here.

 I have been told that you can catch them using bread balls and a small j hook though. 

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Posted 2/28/2008 8:30 AM
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Yeah that is a nile perch! if you cant get him with a rod, you can shoot them with a bow! Now that is fun! It takes some getting use to! My uncle take them and smokes them and they are pretty good!
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Posted 3/8/2008 12:39 AM
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Like I mentioned before, I have  dislike for the most part for freshwater fish. It tends to be mush, funky texture adn the freshwater taste that alothough plenty folks enjoy, I just would rather have my satwater fishes. Someone did mention before that these small retension ponds may not  be the most wonderuful place to acuire your dinner for the evening unless you are in need of some exta eboli. They are one hello of a fighter if you can hoax 'em but for safe eating sams sells them for bargain store prices. They cook up firm and white, mild meat. Where do you live if you dont mind. I'll tie you a few little doohickeys to sink in front of them if you wanna try. Some fisherfolk have a special knack of finessing and somehow landing a fishes that in now way would I havel succed at despite my high patience level. Just like a "true" mullet fisherman I have seen anglers, cane pole in hands bouncing a tiny white dough ball hundreds of bounces in fron to the fish 'til he moved into range and I could snag his annohying little ***. A few other methods I have hear work wel for you but a speciall attires is needed in teh use of the techniques the darkest of the dark lunar cyclel (south moon under) is needed so you can't see your hand in fron to  An average dough ball dance aerobics class in excess of 3 hours is needed just for the stuck up little bitch of a fish to look at your dough ball. Keep enticing until it gets just close enough and a fury of fast cranks of they monkey box should zap enough voltage into his illegial alien, homeland security violating fishk his fickle little *** into what is a skim of stunned fish you can walk across. Now, crossbow 'em, snag hook em, load em up. They eat great, nice, frim and white and when hooded do indeed give a respectable pull. Once caught is important that you the angler break it to the pitiful man that he has lowered himself all the way to the can poll, rubber white worm techniqjue of mullet fishing with the only saving factor of the good he could do for the invironment. 2nd benefit it truly is a fine eating fish. So shoot me a line. I'll tie a few patterns and maybe meet you one day to finesse them our of their hole. I am sure we both have people that beg for fish to eat all the time and this over eutified, gold fond, sickly freak of fish nature ajd we can load them up with fish for life. Not unlike "A STORY" I onde heard of a sewar discharge pipe into a pretty well known fishing hole just south of Dunlawton Bridge in Port Oragne. One day I poled by and could see huge tails tailing out of the at least 3 feet water. After observing for a few I had no doubt I had stumbled upon the motheload of Sheepshead, tailing for stonecrabs. One toss into the whilrpool of discharging fluid and I was tied to a man. That summer we boated tons of outsized sheepheaad, usually no less than 6 pounds and up to the 13 pound range. The water smelled foul, foamy, throathy and swirling in unreal patterns but every drop of a bait resulted in huge sheepshead, then cam the gag grouper ande on several days huge schools of Pompano. Im sorry. I will eat anything , ANYTHING oncemaybe twice. I coulndt. At the time I was a cop and a seargeant rode my *** constantly always asking for sheepshead. what can I do. I am no scientist. I have the man the fish, he ate them, loved them and ranted about themdd. I do believe his trip to Shand's Hospital in Gainesville could have been a first sign of mild trouble. It seems not so bad or even unappealing to discharge urine and semen in a green ooze much like that of a glowing night stick. I traveled to the moutains of zen temples to be cleansed by Buddhist monks. It has taken time but certain parts of me only glow in a pale pink, hardly recoznizable. I think he joined the Blue Man group in Vegas but I am not sure.

Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs. I am haunted by waters.

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